Horse Details

John Kirkup (GB)

102 Runs 7 Wins (6.9%) 26 Places (25.5%)
10 years old ch GB
Sire: Assertive
Dam: Bikini
Damsire: Trans Island
Past Runs (100 Total)
Date/Time Course Distance Jockey Trainer Position Time Beaten By OR Weight SP Comment
05/11/25
12:53
Musselburgh 5f Ethan Tindall David Thompson 8 1:3.52 0.3 46 7-11 33/1
Towards rear(op 16/1)
21/09/25
14:43
Hamilton 5f Aiden Brookes David Thompson 7 1:2.00 0.3 46 8-6 28/1
Prominent - weakened from 2f out(op 25/1 tchd 22/1 and tchd 33/1)
13/09/25
19:22
Musselburgh 5f Cam Hardie David Thompson 3rd 1:1.19 2 45 9-1 28/1
In touch with leaders against near rail - outpaced and switched right halfway - rallied and went third over 1f out - no extra inside final furlong(op 33/1 tchd 40/1)
01/09/25
15:30
Carlisle 5f David Allan David Thompson 14 1:4.19 1 46 9-0 18/1
Disputed lead - weakening when short of room from over 1f out(op 14/1 tchd 20/1)
09/07/25
14:20
Catterick 7f Zak Wheatley David Thompson 8 1:24.42 0.05 46 8-9 25/1
Anticipated start - started quickly - ducked right start - soon prominent - weakened over 1f out(tchd 28/1)
06/06/25
14:25
Thirsk 5f Sean Kirrane David Thompson 7 - - 46 8-11 8/1
Prominent - pushed along soon after start - lost position halfway - hung badly left over 1f out - weakened inside final furlong(op 9/1 and tchd 10/1)
17/05/25
17:40
Thirsk 6f Zak Wheatley David Thompson 10 - - 46 8-6 22/1
In touch with leaders - outpaced halfway - edged right over 1f out - weakened quickly inside final furlong
01/05/25
15:25
Redcar 5f Zak Wheatley David Thompson 4 - - 46 8-6 22/1
Anticipated start - midfield in centre of group - going okay but waiting for room over 1f out - kept on final 110yds - nearest finish(op 20/1 tchd 25/1)
21/04/25
14:30
Redcar 6f David Allan David Thompson 5 - - 46 9-0 10/1
Took keen hold - prominent - weakened final 110yds(op 8/1)
12/04/25
19:40
Thirsk 6f Dylan Hogan David Thompson 11 - - 46 9-0 20/1
Prominent on far side of group - outpaced and lost position halfway - weakened from over 1f out(op 18/1 tchd 22/1)
27/02/25
17:00
Newcastle (AW) 6f Jonny Peate David Thompson 6 1:14.02 2.5 44 9-9 16/1
Took keen hold - prominent - hung left over 1f out - weakened inside final furlong(op 14/1 tchd 18/1)
08/02/25
17:00
Newcastle (AW) 5f Jonny Peate David Thompson 6 1:0.65 0.3 44 9-9 28/1
Held up in rear - headway over 2f out - prominent over 1f out - kept on(op 25/1 tchd 33/1)
01/02/25
17:55
Newcastle (AW) 5f Andrew Mullen David Thompson 10 1:0.47 1.5 45 9-0 25/1
Never better than midfield(op 20/1)
23/01/25
16:06
Newcastle (AW) 5f Andrew Mullen David Thompson 3rd 1:0.32 .5 44 9-9 28/1
Ducked left start - midfield - steady headway 2f out - went second 1f out - no extra inside final furlong - edged right and lost second inside final 110yds(op 20/1)
05/11/24
14:34
Redcar 6f Paula Muir David Thompson 10 1:14.65 0.2 48 8-5 10/1
In touch with leaders - dropped to rear against far rail 2f out - weakened inside final furlong(op 17/2)
29/10/24
19:30
Newcastle (AW) 6f Tom Eaves David Thompson 6 1:16.11 4 46 9-3 18/1
Prominent on far side of group - weakened over 1f out(op 20/1 tchd 16/1 and tchd 22/1)
18/10/24
13:52
Redcar 6f Luke Morris David Thompson 11 1:14.36 .5 51 8-7 14/1
In touch with leaders - hung left and weakened over 1f out(op 10/1 tchd 16/1)
28/09/24
16:00
Ripon 6f Connor Beasley David Thompson 5 - - 50 8-11 100/30F
Forced stall open fractionally early and ducked right start - prominent early - steadied and towards rear after 1f - outpaced and pushed along halfway - rallied inside final furlong - not pace to challenge(op 9/2 tchd 3/1)
11/09/24
15:25
Carlisle 6f Ben Robinson David Thompson 4 1:14.82 2.25 50 9-1 5/2F
Prominent - led going easily over 2f out - headed over 1f out - soon hung right - weakened final 110yds(op 11/4)
10/09/24
18:05
Catterick 7f Ben Robinson David Thompson 2nd 1:28.36 2 50 9-1 7/2
Stumbled start - prominent - took keen hold after 1f - led after 2f - switched right towards near side from over 2f out - headed over 1f out - no extra towards finish(op 4/1)
28/08/24
15:50
Catterick 7f Tom Eaves David Thompson 2nd 1:26.84 4.5 50 9-9 5/1
Prominent - edged right over 2f out - soon pressed leader against near rail - weakened gradually final 110yds - just held second(op 3/1)
10/08/24
19:42
Ayr 6f Paula Muir David Thompson 3rd 1:11.53 0.3 50 8-10 8/1
In touch with leaders on far side of group - headway to lead 2f out - faced challenges 1f out - headed and lost second inside final furlong - no extra final 110yds(op 17/2 and tchd 9/1)
06/08/24
14:50
Catterick 7f Connor Beasley David Thompson 2nd 1:25.66 3 50 9-9 9/1
Midfield on inner - good headway but bit short of room 3f out - went second inside final furlong - no match for winner(op 11/2)
27/07/24
17:00
Newcastle (AW) 7f Jonny Peate David Thompson 5 1:27.33 0.1 45 9-6 14/1
Anticipated start and hit stall - took keen hold - prominent - pressed leaders when ridden over 1f out - no extra inside final 110yds(op 9/1 tchd 17/2)
18/07/24
14:50
Hamilton 6f Connor Beasley David Thompson 3rd 1:10.32 2.5 51 9-5 11/1
Ducked right start - in touch with leaders - outpaced and lost position halfway - rallied inside final furlong - went third final 110yds - not pace to challenge(tchd 12/1)
06/07/24
18:48
Carlisle 5f Phil Dennis David Thompson 7 1:1.99 0.3 53 9-5 7/1
Never better than midfield (jockey said gelding never travelled)(op 13/2 tchd 15/2)
17/06/24
15:00
Carlisle 6f Phil Dennis David Thompson 3rd 1:16.15 2 54 9-8 9/2
Disputed lead - lost position but prominent after 1f - challenging from 2f out - no extra final 110yds(op 5/1)
10/06/24
16:20
Carlisle 7f Connor Beasley David Thompson 3rd 1:28.64 0.3 54 8-9 16/1
Held up in midfield - ridden over 1f out - ran on inside final furlong - went third towards finish(op 11/1)
28/05/24
17:10
Redcar 6f Miss Serena Brotherton David Thompson 6 1:15.12 .5 57 10-13 12/1
Pressed leaders on outer - weakened inside final furlong
02/05/24
15:17
Redcar 5f Dylan Hogan David Thompson 5 1:2.03 0.2 59 9-8 11/1
In touch with leaders - prominent on outer from under 2f out - weakened gradually inside final furlong(tchd 10/1 and tchd 12/1)
24/04/24
14:12
Catterick 5f Jonny Peate David Thompson 3rd 1:4.23 6 59 9-8 7/2
Ducked right start - prominent - raced centre home straight - edged left and towards far side from over 1f out - weakened final furlong(op 4/1)
03/04/24
17:00
Catterick 6f Cam Hardie David Thompson 6 1:27.92 2.5 59 8-7 9/1
Took keen hold - prominent - switched to near side over 2f out - weakened from over 1f out - lost two places inside final 110yds(op 16/1)
14/11/23
17:05
Newcastle (AW) 5f Jonny Peate David Thompson 10 1:0.98 3.75 52 9-4 6/1
Pressed leader - weakened over 1f out(op 9/2)
20/10/23
15:20
Redcar 5f Dylan Hogan David Thompson 1st 1:2.37 Won 56 8-11 11/2
Prominent on near side of group - ridden from under 2f out - edged left and kept on well final 110yds - led final stride(tchd 5/1)
04/10/23
14:20
Catterick 5f Miss Becky Smith David Thompson 2nd 1:3.01 3.5 58 11-0 5/2F
Bumped soon after start - prominent - switched to near side over 3f out - edged left and went second halfway - ridden over 1f out - kept on inside final furlong - no match for winner(op 3/1)
29/09/23
20:30
Newcastle (AW) 5f Jonny Peate David Thompson 7 1:0.49 1.25 52 9-3 6/1
Midfield - some headway over 2f out - outpaced over 1f out - kept on but no impression inside final furlong(op 5/1 tchd 13/2)
02/09/23
15:15
Beverley 5f Ben Curtis David Thompson 4 1:2.25 0.3 56 8-12 100/30F
In touch with leaders on outer - ridden final furlong - kept on(tchd 3/1)
30/08/23
15:10
Catterick 6f Phil Dennis David Thompson 2nd 1:13.21 0.2 56 9-5 6/1
Pulled hard - prominent - went second over 2f out - led 1f out - kept on well but headed final strides - just failed(op 17/2 tchd 9/1)
17/08/23
15:30
Beverley 5f David Allan David Thompson 4 1:1.73 1.75 58 8-11 9/1
In touch with leaders - kept on from under 2f out - not reach leaders(op 7/1)
04/08/23
20:50
Musselburgh 5f David Allan David Thompson 5 1:1.37 0.3 60 9-9 7/2
Ducked right start - in touch with leaders on inner - short of room from over 1f out - switched right and in the clear inside final furlong - hung right and no impression inside final 110yds (jockey said gelding was denied a clear run approximately 1 1/2f out)(op 9/2)
26/07/23
17:05
Catterick 6f Connor Beasley David Thompson 4 1:12.36 0.3 60 9-12 3/1F
Midfield - steady headway from 2f out - ran on inside final 110yds - never dangerous(op 7/2)
24/07/23
18:30
Beverley 5f David Allan David Thompson 3rd 1:5.71 1 60 9-9 11/2
Took keen hold - led - headed but prominent after 1f - lost position under 2f out - keeping on when not clear run inside final furlong - carried head awkwardly inside final 110yds - kept on towards finish(op 5/1 tchd 9/2 and tchd 6/1)
09/07/23
14:30
Ayr 5f Miss Becky Smith David Thompson 4 0:59.83 .75 59 10-5 EvensF
Prominent in chasing group - pushed along over 1f out - ridden and edged left inside final furlong - no extra inside final 110yds(op 7/4)
08/07/23
18:52
Carlisle 5f Ben Curtis David Thompson 2nd 1:2.48 0.3 59 9-11 17/2
Midfield - headway towards far side over 1f out - challenging when ridden inside final furlong - kept on - just held(op 7/1)
22/06/23
14:50
Ripon 6f Ben Curtis David Thompson 4 1:12.42 1 60 9-4 17/2
Took keen hold - midfield - headway when hung left over 1f out - no extra final furlong(op 11/1 tchd 12/1)
25/05/23
16:10
Catterick 6f David Allan David Thompson 3rd 1:12.73 .75 60 9-1 11/1
In touch with leaders - ridden on outer over 2f out - soon outpaced - rallied and went third inside final 110yds - ran on
15/05/23
16:20
Catterick 6f David Allan David Thompson 7 1:13.78 0.3 63 9-7 6/1
Took keen hold - in touch with leaders on inner - outpaced and pushed along over 2f out - ridden and rallying over 1f out - weakened final 110yds(op 11/2 tchd 13/2)
12/05/23
18:30
Ripon 5f Paddy Mathers David Thompson 4 1:4.02 .5 63 8-11 8/1
Pushed along soon after start - in touch with leaders against near rail - outpaced and pushed along after 2f - keeping on over 1f out - ridden and no impression inside final furlong(op 17/2 tchd 15/2 and tchd 9/1)
24/04/23
17:15
Pontefract 5f Ben Curtis David Thompson 8 1:5.46 2 65 9-4 15/2
Anticipated start and lost many lengths start - in rear - pushed along before halfway - never on terms
22/12/22
17:00
Southwell (AW) 5f David Allan David Thompson 10 0:58.72 1.25 62 9-6 14/1
Towards rear of midfield - pushed along halfway - soon ridden - made no impression(op 8/1)
04/11/22
18:15
Newcastle (AW) 5f Connor Beasley David Thompson 6 0:59.67 .5 64 9-3 20/1
Midfield - ridden and outpaced over 1f out - rallied final 110yds - not pace to challenge(op 14/1)
17/10/22
16:20
Pontefract 6f Clifford Lee David Thompson 10 1:19.79 0.1 70 9-8 12/1
In touch with leaders - ridden and outpaced up the centre from over 1f out - soon weakened(op 17/2)
10/10/22
16:45
Musselburgh 5f Clifford Lee David Thompson 6 1:2.05 0.1 70 9-5 14/1
Ducked right start - soon recovered - midfield - outpaced and pushed along over 2f out - ridden over 1f out - keeping on when not clear run repeatedly inside final furlong - nearest finish (jockey said gelding was denied a clear run inside the final furlong)(op 18/1)
21/09/22
16:37
Redcar 5f Connor Beasley David Thompson 8 0:57.22 .5 72 10-0 10/1
Never better than mid-division(op 11/1 tchd 9/1)
06/09/22
17:05
Catterick 5f Connor Beasley David Thompson 4 1:0.20 1.5 73 9-7 11/4J
Raced wide - held up in rear - pushed along over 2f out - ridden over 1f out - kept on(op 3/1)
27/08/22
15:45
Beverley 5f Callum Rodriguez David Thompson 3rd 1:1.80 0.2 72 9-11 10/1
Prominent - pushed along halfway - ridden over 1f out - every chance inside final 110yds - kept on(op 8/1)
19/08/22
14:05
Carlisle 6f Dale Swift David Thompson 5 1:14.72 3.75 72 10-2 8/1
Midfield - pushed along and headway 2f out - ridden and weakened over 1f out(op 10/1 tchd 13/2)
09/08/22
18:50
Carlisle 5f Connor Beasley David Thompson 3rd 1:0.77 0.2 72 9-4 25/1
Took keen hold - in touch with leaders - not clear run 2f out - ridden when headway and went third inside final 110yds - ran on - just held(op 20/1)
25/07/22
14:45
Ayr 7f Cam Hardie David Thompson 11 1:34.20 3.25 74 9-11 80/1
Never better than mid-division(op 33/1 tchd 100/1)
18/06/22
13:14
Ayr 5f Tom Eaves David Thompson 7 1:2.50 6 76 9-7 20/1
Bumped start - in touch with leaders - outpaced and nudged along after 2f - pushed along 2f out - ridden and no impression inside final furlong(op 14/1)
04/06/22
15:21
Musselburgh 5f Amie Waugh David Thompson 9 0:59.62 .75 77 7-11 50/1
Held up in midfield - pushed along halfway - keeping on when short of room inside final furlong(op 40/1)
20/05/22
19:03
Catterick 5f Cam Hardie David Thompson 3rd 0:59.31 1.5 79 9-8 13/2
Awkward start - in touch with leaders - pushed along from 4f out - lost position and in rear 3f out - ridden and rallied under 2f out - kept on well inside final furlong(op 8/1)
13/05/22
19:55
Hamilton 6f Paul Mulrennan David Thompson 6 1:13.90 .75 79 9-8 15/2
Took keen hold - prominent - ridden 2f out - every chance over 1f out - lost second final 110yds - soon weakened(op 13/2)
09/05/22
15:50
Musselburgh 5f Connor Beasley David Thompson 1st 1:0.17 Won 75 9-4 14/1
Took keen hold - tracked leaders - shaken up 2f out - kept on to lead inside final furlong - all out(op 16/1)
17/04/22
16:17
Southwell (AW) 6f Connor Beasley David Thompson 11 1:15.66 0.1 73 9-0 20/1
Took keen hold - prominent - about five wide home turn - soon ridden - weakened over 1f out(Mkt1: op 25/1 tchd 28/1; Mkt2 op 22/1)
09/04/22
14:05
Thirsk 6f Aled Beech David Thompson 5 1:15.79 1.5 77 9-4 33/1
Raced freely - chased leaders up the centre - pushed along over 1f out - ridden and no impression final 110yds
18/10/21
17:15
Pontefract 5f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 8 1:9.53 2.25 79 9-1 10/1
Dwelt start - soon chased leaders - bumped under 3f out - weakened final furlong - never going well(op 15/2)
07/10/21
15:15
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 6 1:14.64 0.1 81 9-7 9/1
Held up in rear in centre of group - pushed along over 2f out - ridden and headway over 1f out - kept on final 110yds - not reach leaders
28/09/21
13:35
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 5 1:13.06 0.1 81 10-2 10/1
Took keen hold - midfield - pushed along 2f out - ridden over 1f out - disputing third final 110yds - kept on(op 12/1)
17/09/21
15:20
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 19 1:10.94 .75 82 9-6 33/1
Midfield on far side of group - ridden 2f out - weakened 1f out(op 28/1)
01/08/21
14:22
Thirsk 5f Ben Curtis Michael Dods 6 0:58.98 .75 83 9-12 11/2
Awkward start - pushed along 2f out - soon lost ground - held when short of room final furlong(op 5/1)
05/07/21
16:25
Ayr 5f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 1st 0:59.94 Won 81 9-11 11/4
Led early - headed 4f out - tracked leader over 3f out - pushed along under 2f out - ridden and close up when carried left 1f out - led inside final 110yds - just held on
27/05/21
16:30
Haydock 5f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 2nd 1:2.70 1.75 81 9-7 3/1
Held up in rear - switched right and raced near side soon after start - shaken up and steady headway 2f out - ridden and hung left over 1f out - soon switched right - headway and went second inside final furlong - kept on final 110yds - no match for winner(op 9/2)
15/05/21
15:55
Thirsk 6f Paul Mulrennan Michael Dods 7 1:16.38 .75 83 8-12 14/1
Prominent - pushed along over 2f out - ridden and weakened over 1f out(op 12/1)
01/05/21
16:25
Thirsk 5f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 9 0:58.76 1 85 10-0 12/1
Close up - ridden and outpaced 2f out - weakened from 1f out(op 15/2)
19/11/20
16:50
Newcastle (AW) 5f Aidan Redpath Michael Dods 12 1:1.38 0.3 85 8-4 12/1
Pulled hard - chased leaders - ridden and weakening when edged right and hampered rival over 1f out(op 9/1)
04/11/20
15:10
Nottingham 5f Paul Mulrennan Michael Dods 2nd 1:1.37 1 85 9-7 7/2
Took keen hold - close up - shaken up over 1f out - ridden and chased winner inside final 110yds - ran on
19/10/20
16:20
Pontefract 5f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 1st 1:6.57 Won 79 9-2 11/4F
Took keen hold - towards rear on inner - good headway and close up halfway - squeezed through to lead over 1f out - ridden clear inside final furlong - comfortably(op 4/1)
08/10/20
14:10
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 3rd 1:17.95 0.2 79 9-4 3/1F
Bit short of room soon after start - took keen hold - prominent - headway and close up over 1f out - ridden and kept on inside final furlong - no extra towards finish(op 11/4 tchd 16/5)
29/09/20
13:30
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 8 1:14.23 0.1 79 9-11 9/2F
Took keen hold - in touch with leaders - pushed along 2f out - ridden over 1f out - made no impression(op 4/1 tchd 5/1)
18/09/20
15:55
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 4 1:13.43 .5 80 9-4 10/1
Prominent in centre of group - ridden and headway over 1f out - every chance inside final furlong - soon hung left - held towards finish(op 11/1)
01/09/20
16:00
Ripon 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 6 1:12.57 1.25 80 9-2 17/2
Raced near side - chased leaders - ridden and led group over 1f out - headed in group inside final furlong - soon no extra - 3rd of 9 in group(op 8/1 tchd 15/2)
05/08/20
14:40
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 1st 1:16.26 Won 77 9-9 9/2
Tracked leaders - good headway 2f out - ridden to lead over 1f out - kept on - always doing enough(op 4/1 tchd 5/1)
06/07/20
13:40
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 2nd 1:12.75 1.25 77 8-12 6/1
Tracked leaders - ridden over 1f out - briefly led inside final furlong - kept on inside final 110yds - no match for winner(op 8/1)
20/06/20
18:10
Ripon 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 2nd 1:11.60 2 77 9-2 5/1F
Towards rear - pushed along over 2f out - some headway over 1f out - ridden and kept on well final furlong - went second towards finish(tchd 4/1)
06/06/20
13:30
Newcastle (AW) 7f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 10 1:28.24 .75 78 9-3 16/1
Tracked leaders - ridden and brief headway under 2f out - weakened inside final furlong
05/12/19
18:30
Southwell (AW) 6f Callum Rodriguez Michael Dods 10 1:18.33 .5 80 9-7 11/1
Towards rear on outer - ridden and struggling over 2f out - soon beaten
08/11/19
18:05
Newcastle (AW) 6f Callum Rodriguez Michael Dods 9 1:12.63 0.1 80 9-4 4/1F
Close up in centre of group - driven over 2f out - weakened inside final furlong(op 11/2 tchd 7/2)
22/10/19
16:50
Newcastle (AW) 6f Graham Lee Michael Dods 3rd 1:12.01 .5 80 9-8 6/1
Took keen hold - close up in centre of group - effort when not clear run over 2f out - soon ridden - headway over 1f out - one pace well inside final furlong(op 9/2)
01/10/19
14:20
Ayr 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 1st 1:15.49 Won 73 9-6 11/4F
Took keen hold - prominent - smooth headway to lead over 1f out - driven clear final furlong - eased towards finish(op 10/3)
16/09/19
17:00
Thirsk 7f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 5 1:24.69 1.75 74 9-6 12/1
Chased leaders - ridden to lead over 1f out - headed final 175yds - no extra towards finish
30/08/19
16:15
Thirsk 7f Pat Cosgrave Michael Dods 14 1:30.67 2.25 75 9-3 17/2
Always towards rear(op 9/1)
03/08/19
15:25
Thirsk 7f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 4 1:27.41 0.1 76 8-13 20/1
Tracked leaders - raced quite keenly - ridden over 1f out - one pace inside final furlong - lost 3rd towards finish(op 25/1)
26/07/19
18:30
York 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 8 1:12.81 1.25 77 9-4 10/1
Tracked leaders - headway over 2f out - ridden well over 1f out - kept on same pace
12/07/19
20:00
Chester 7f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 3rd 1:31.93 1.5 77 9-11 20/1
Chased winner - ridden over 1f out - lost 2nd inside final furlong - kept on same pace final 100yds(op 16/1)
15/06/19
17:15
York 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 7 1:15.67 0.2 78 9-10 13/2
Chased leaders centre - effort 2f out - soon ridden - driven entering final furlong - kept on same pace(op 6/1)
07/06/19
19:25
Haydock 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 1st 1:15.02 Won 74 9-6 4/1
Chased leaders - ridden over 2f out - went 2nd over 1f out - nosed ahead final 110yds - asserted near finish(op 7/2)
20/05/19
17:45
Carlisle 7f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 4 1:27.08 1.75 76 9-9 17/2
Held up in midfield on outside - effort against stands' rail over 1f out - kept on final furlong - never able to challenge(op 8/1)
04/05/19
14:30
Thirsk 6f Paula Muir Michael Dods 9 1:12.87 3.75 79 9-1 8/1
Held up - pushed along over 2f out - weakened inside final furlong(tchd 15/2)
22/04/19
15:40
Redcar 6f Connor Beasley Michael Dods 5 1:11.88 0.3 80 8-11 8/1
Tracked leader - raced quite keenly - ridden over 2f out - no extra inside final furlong(op 17/2 tchd 9/1)