Jockey Details

Ricky Doyle

172 Rides 14 Wins (8.1%) 21 Places (12.2%)
Rides - Today & Tomorrow (1)
Time Course Distance Horse Trainer Odds
Sun 14:05 Fairyhouse 2m4f55y Ol Man Dingle (IRE) Eoin Griffin 7/1
Recent Runs - Last 12 Months (Showing 100)
Date/Time Course Distance Horse Trainer Position Beaten By Weight SP Comment
30/11/25
14:05
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Ol Man Dingle (IRE) Eoin Griffin 5 .5 11-10 7/1
In touch with leaders - not fluent 6th - disputing third halfway - went second after 5 out - led narrowly 3 out - headed 2 out - weakened approaching last(op 10/1)
27/11/25
15:38
Thurles (IRE) 2m Willywampus (IRE) Eamon Courtney 3rd 0.3 11-6 7/1
Took keen hold - held up in rear - headway after 4 out - joined leader 2 out - soon briefly led - weakened gradually run-in(op 8/1 tchd 13/2)
27/11/25
15:07
Thurles (IRE) 2m Hidalgo Des Mottes (FR) Eoin Griffin 2nd 2.75 11-2 7/1
Prominent throughout - led after 3 out - faced challenge last - headed inside final 110yds - kept on(op 13/2)
23/11/25
15:20
Cork (IRE) 2m5f Flemensface (IRE) Eoin Griffin 99 - 11-12 33/1
Midfield - not fluent 2nd - mistake and reminder 4th - mistake and reminder 9th - soon lost position - pulled up before 4 out(op 25/1)
23/11/25
11:43
Punchestown (IRE) 3m½f Desertmore House (IRE) Martin Brassil 1st Won 11-4 3/1
Travelled strongly - disputed lead - prominent after 6th - led after omitted 3 out - went clear after 2 out - kept on well run-in - comfortably(op 5/2)
22/11/25
12:32
Punchestown (IRE) 2m3f Goldinthemountains (FR) Martin Brassil 6 18 11-12 80/1
Prominent - disputed lead 7th - led 5 out - headed and weakened from 3 out(op 100/1)
22/11/25
12:00
Punchestown (IRE) 2m3½f Therhythmofthenite Martin Brassil 4 4.5 11-7 16/5
Midfield - headway from 2 out - kept on and went fourth run-in - not reach leaders(op 6/1 tchd 3/1)
22/11/25
11:30
Punchestown (IRE) 2m½f Rua Mor J G Coogan 5 17 11-0 80/1
In rear - steady headway after 4 out - midfield 2 out - soon weakened(op 100/1 tchd 125/1)
21/11/25
12:31
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m½f Lough Nigara (IRE) Eoin Griffin 2nd 2.25 10-7 11/4
Held up in rear - steady headway 11th - outpaced before 2 out - rallied run-in - went second final strides(op 9/4)
17/11/25
14:10
Navan (IRE) 2m4f Grandero Bello (FR) Eddie & Patrick Harty 5 11 11-3 33/1
Held up in last - weakened before 2 out(op 50/1 tchd 28/1)
17/11/25
11:50
Navan (IRE) 2m4f Sekakarma (IRE) W M Roper 16 0.1 11-12 250/1
Never better than midfield(tchd 300/1)
13/11/25
15:48
Punchestown (IRE) 2m4½f It's Never Simple (IRE) Martin Brassil 1st Won 11-3 16/1
Pressed leader - disputed lead halfway - led before 7th - headed before 3 out - disputed lead 2 out - nudged along when led before last - soon clear - easily(tchd 18/1)
13/11/25
14:10
Punchestown (IRE) 2m Can Happen (IRE) Mark Fahey 7 10 11-12 25/1
Midfield - brief headway before 2 out - weakened on turn before last(op 28/1 and tchd 40/1)
09/11/25
12:20
Naas (IRE) 2m4f Three In A Row (IRE) A L T Moore 4 0.2 11-2 16/1
(op 12/1)
08/11/25
13:38
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m Solar Generation Martin Brassil 10 9.5 11-7 16/1
In touch with leaders(tchd 14/1)
08/11/25
12:28
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m4f Is Charlie Around (IRE) Eamon Courtney 0 0 11-12 28/1
Prominent(op 20/1)
06/11/25
13:47
Clonmel (IRE) 3m Arion Soldier (IRE) Eamon Courtney 99 - 11-0 40/1
Always behind(op 28/1 tchd 33/1)
06/11/25
12:37
Clonmel (IRE) 2m3½f Oaks Soldier (IRE) Eamon Courtney 4 1.75 11-4 33/1
Took keen hold - midfield(op 25/1)
04/11/25
15:45
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m Lough Nigara (IRE) Eoin Griffin 3rd 2 10-5 -
Held up in rear
04/11/25
12:15
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m½f Flemensface (IRE) Eoin Griffin 6 12 11-12 -
Midfield - not fluent 5th
02/11/25
14:45
Cork (IRE) 2m4f Ol Man Dingle (IRE) Eoin Griffin 1st Won 11-0 11/4
(op 10/3)
30/10/25
15:00
Thurles (IRE) 2m6½f The Goose's Acre (IRE) Eamon Courtney 0 0 11-4 10/1
(op 11/1 tchd 12/1)
30/10/25
14:00
Thurles (IRE) 2m2½f Willywampus (IRE) Eamon Courtney 6 0.3 11-12 20/1 -
26/10/25
13:25
Galway (IRE) 2m6½f Great Universe (GB) Martin Brassil 99 - 11-12 25/1
Always behind - fell last(op 40/1 tchd 20/1 and tchd 50/1)
25/10/25
16:45
Galway (IRE) 3m Queen Kulina (IRE) Eoin Griffin 4 .5 10-7 8/1
Towards rear - headway after 3 out - edged left run-in - kept on final 110yds - went fourth towards finish - not pace to challenge(op 14/1)
24/10/25
14:35
Sligo (IRE) 2m1½f Coul Dreamer (IRE) W McCreery 4 19 11-11 22/1
Took keen hold - led - clear after 1st - reduced lead 4 out - not fluent and headed 2 out - soon weakened(op 18/1 tchd 25/1)
15/10/25
14:30
Punchestown (IRE) 2m½f Galileo Springs (IRE) Martin Brassil 3rd 2.25 10-13 7/2
Prominent - led before 2 out - headed before last - soon weakened(tchd 4/1)
14/10/25
16:05
Punchestown (IRE) 2m4f Container Madness (IRE) Martin Brassil 14 2.5 10-7 16/1
Prominent early - midfield 5th - weakened quickly 2 out(op 18/1)
14/10/25
15:35
Punchestown (IRE) 2m4f The Goose's Acre (IRE) Eamon Courtney 3rd 18 11-12 20/1
Took keen hold - midfield - no chance 2 out - kept on and went remote third run-in(op 22/1)
12/10/25
13:42
Cork (IRE) 1m7½f Rua Mor J G Coogan 8 4.75 11-0 200/1
Always behind(op 150/1 tchd 100/1 and tchd 250/1)
07/10/25
16:20
Galway (IRE) 2m2f Ol Man Dingle (IRE) Eoin Griffin 1st Won 11-12 7/4J
Led - headed and raced in second 7th - switched right over 1f out - soon ridden - led again towards finish(op 3/1 tchd 6/4 and 16/5)
06/10/25
14:25
Tipperary (IRE) 2m½f Molto Amichi (IRE) Eoin Griffin 99 - 11-3 15/2
Prominent - 8 lengths third and weakening when fell last(op 6/1 tchd 11/2)
05/10/25
15:34
Killarney (IRE) 2m7f Queen Kulina (IRE) Eoin Griffin 5 0.3 10-7 18/1
Towards rear - headway into midfield 3 out - kept on run-in - never on terms(op 16/1 tchd 22/1)
05/10/25
13:49
Killarney (IRE) 2m1f Galileo Springs (IRE) Martin Brassil 1st Won 10-13 EvensF
Prominent - led 1st - headed but pressed leader 5th - led again 2 out - nudged out and kept on well run-in - comfortably(op 10/11)
04/10/25
16:50
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m4f Banjaxed (GB) Mrs Lorna Fowler 4 .5 11-7 10/1
Prominent - led before 3 out - headed before last - no extra when bumped last(tchd 12/1)
20/09/25
15:10
Navan (IRE) 2m3f Hidalgo Des Mottes (FR) Eoin Griffin 8 6 11-9 10/1
Midfield - hit 8th - headway after 3 out - prominent 2 out - weakened approaching last(op 12/1)
20/09/25
14:35
Navan (IRE) 2m3f Morning Mayhem (GB) Peter John Flood 9 5 11-9 250/1
Towards rear - hampered 5 out - some headway after 4 out - no extra 2 out(op 100/1 tchd 300/1)
29/08/25
19:35
Wexford (IRE) 3m1f It's Never Simple (IRE) Martin Brassil 99 - 11-8 11/2
Took keen hold - never better than midfield - pulled up before 2 out (vet reported gelding to be post race normal)(op 4/1 tchd 7/2)
29/08/25
18:05
Wexford (IRE) 3m Rutland Rose (IRE) Martin Brassil 6 3 10-13 16/1
In rear - outpaced 3 out - stayed on after 2 out (jockey said that mare finished lame; vet reported mare to be lame on her left fore post race)(op 20/1 tchd 12/1)
25/08/25
17:28
Downpatrick (IRE) 2m2f Willywampus (IRE) Eamon Courtney 6 21 11-8 18/1
Led - 5 lengths ahead 1st - reduced lead 3rd - headed after 4th - lost ground quickly before 7th - weakening when mistake 3 out - tailed off(op 20/1 tchd 25/1)
25/08/25
16:53
Downpatrick (IRE) 2m3½f Firstupbestdressed (IRE) Conor David Maxwell 99 - 10-9 15/2
In touch with leaders - mistake and unseated 2nd(op 11/1 tchd 7/1)
14/08/25
18:05
Tramore (IRE) 2m Morning Mayhem (GB) Peter John Flood 8 29 10-13 50/1
In rear throughout - tailed off(op 40/1)
10/08/25
16:52
Downpatrick (IRE) 2m6f Benz (IRE) R K Watson 10 17 12-0 22/1
Prominent - led 4th - headed before 2 out - weakened approaching last(tchd 25/1)
10/08/25
14:17
Downpatrick (IRE) 2m2f Galileo Springs (IRE) Martin Brassil 2nd 5 10-13 5/4F
In touch with leaders - challenging last - went second run-in - no match for winner(op 7/4)
08/08/25
16:18
Wexford (IRE) 2m1f Abitlikethat (IRE) P J Rothwell 10 18 11-4 150/1
Always behind - tailed off(op 125/1)
05/08/25
20:00
Roscommon (IRE) 3m1f Il Silenzio (GB) Martin Brassil 1st Won 11-2 11/1
Towards rear - headway from 4 out - went second 2 out - ridden and led towards near side approaching last - ridden clear final 110yds - eased towards finish(op 9/1)
05/08/25
19:30
Roscommon (IRE) 2m5½f It's Never Simple (IRE) Martin Brassil 1st Won 11-3 16/1
Midfield - headway before 3 out - not fluent 2 out - went fourth approaching last - ridden and ran on well to lead final stride(op 11/1)
05/08/25
17:45
Roscommon (IRE) 1m7½f Youknowme (IRE) P J Rothwell 12 6.5 11-1 200/1
Didn't jump with fluency - always behind(op 150/1 tchd 250/1)
05/08/25
17:10
Roscommon (IRE) 1m7½f Morning Mayhem (GB) Peter John Flood 13 7 11-1 14/1
Towards rear throughout(op 20/1 tchd 22/1)
02/08/25
15:12
Galway (IRE) 2m6½f Topgun Simmy (IRE) John Joseph Hanlon 9 4.5 11-9 16/1
In rear - some headway after 3 out - no impression after 2 out(op 20/1)
02/08/25
14:37
Galway (IRE) 2m1f Telecon (GB) Mark Fahey 15 15 11-12 14/1
Raced wide - midfield - weakened after 2 out(op 16/1 tchd 20/1)
02/08/25
14:02
Galway (IRE) 2m1f Goldinthevalleys (IRE) Martin Brassil 11 .75 11-12 40/1
Took keen hold - soon in touch with leaders - dropped to midfield when not fluent 3 out - weakened after 2 out - mistake last(op 25/1 tchd 50/1)
29/07/25
17:37
Galway (IRE) 2m2f Great Attitude (GER) C W J Farrell 5 4.5 11-12 5/1
Disputed lead - prominent after 1st - led 2nd - disputed lead 4 out - lost position just after last - weakened home turn(op 13/2 tchd 10/3)
29/07/25
17:05
Galway (IRE) 2m½f Sticktotheplan (FR) C W J Farrell 1st Won 11-6 22/1
Raced in last - headway before 2 out - soon waiting for room - ridden then switched right run-in - led final 110yds - ran on well(tchd 28/1)
22/07/25
19:42
Ballinrobe (IRE) 2m6f Western Opera (IRE) Gearoid O'Loughlin 2nd 8.5 10-9 40/1
Towards rear - headway 2 out - went third last - no chance with winner but stayed on final furlong - went second final strides(op 25/1)
11/07/25
20:00
Kilbeggan (IRE) 3m1½f Topgun Simmy (IRE) John Joseph Hanlon 1st Won 11-12 3/1
Raced in last - in touch with leaders 6th - went second and chased clear leader 4 out - headway after 2 out - led last - easily(op 5/2)
07/07/25
19:43
Roscommon (IRE) 3m½f Container Madness (IRE) Martin Brassil 7 15 10-11 10/1
Towards rear - headway after 3 out - kept on run-in - never on terms(op 9/1 tchd 17/2)
03/07/25
18:10
Tipperary (IRE) 2m Zariygann (IRE) Martin Brassil 99 - 11-5 80/1
Towards rear - some headway when not fluent 6th - mistake and fell 7th(op 50/1)
01/07/25
16:50
Tipperary (IRE) 2m3½f Truckers Cruising (IRE) W J Burke 99 - 11-12 125/1
Took keen hold - led - headed but prominent before 4th - led again 5 out - weakening when mistake 3 out - pulled up before 2 out(op 40/1)
31/05/25
16:48
Listowel (IRE) 2m7½f Lough Nigara (IRE) Eoin Griffin 3rd 5.5 11-4 9/1
Held up in rear - steady headway before 4 out - went third after 2 out - no extra run-in(op 7/1)
31/05/25
14:30
Listowel (IRE) 2m½f Diamond Jimmy (IRE) Miss J M Lee 99 - 11-12 80/1
Took keen hold - in rear - jockey lost iron after 2nd - headway and in touch with leaders after 3rd - weakened before 4 out - pulled up before 2 out(op 66/1 tchd 100/1)
30/05/25
19:20
Tramore (IRE) 2m5½f Nevereverever (IRE) John Joseph Murphy 7 - 11-7 14/1
In rear - headway but raced wide after 3 out - midfield 2 out - hung left approaching last - weakened run-in(tchd 16/1)
30/05/25
18:10
Tramore (IRE) 1m7½f Willywampus (IRE) Eamon Courtney 99 - 11-7 13/2
Led - clear 3rd - reduced lead when mistake and unseated 5 out(op 12/1)
29/05/25
19:12
Limerick (IRE) 2m3f Hidalgo Des Mottes (FR) Eoin Griffin 4 4 11-0 15/2
Pressed leader - led 4th - headed before 2 out - weakened run-in(op 6/1 tchd 11/2)
29/05/25
18:12
Limerick (IRE) 2m3f Larkins Lane (IRE) Ronald O'Leary 99 - 10-12 20/1
Always behind - tailed off when pulled up before 2 out (jockey said mare never travelled)(op 25/1)
27/05/25
20:00
Ballinrobe (IRE) 2m6½f Good World (IRE) Eoin Griffin 7 - 11-5 33/1
Led - bumped 1st - soon headed - soon prominent - dropped to midfield 6th - towards rear 4 out - stayed on after 2 out(op 28/1)
27/05/25
18:00
Ballinrobe (IRE) 2m½f The Goose's Acre (IRE) Eamon Courtney 7 - 11-4 22/1
In touch with leaders - not fluent 3 out - soon weakened gradually(op 25/1 tchd 28/1)
17/05/25
17:15
Wexford (IRE) 3m1½f Redzy Rocco (IRE) Jarlath P Fahey 9 4.25 10-10 12/1
Held up in rear - cajoled along 9th - mistake 4 out - kept on from 2 out - never on terms(op 14/1 tchd 11/1)
17/05/25
15:35
Wexford (IRE) 2m1f Lough Nigara (IRE) Eoin Griffin 7 .75 11-4 3/1F
Took keen hold - prominent - led before 2nd - headed and weakened before 2 out(op 10/3)
15/05/25
19:48
Clonmel (IRE) 2m½f Miss Gherkin (IRE) Eoin Griffin 2nd 1.75 11-4 7/2J
Took keen hold - towards rear - headway into midfield before 2nd - went second before omitted 2 out - pressed winner run-in - no extra inside final 110yds(tchd 4/1)
15/05/25
19:18
Clonmel (IRE) 2m½f Keilah (IRE) W McCreery 4 - 11-7 9/1
Took keen hold - pressed leader early - led after 1st - headed before omitted 2 out - weakened run-in(op 7/1)
14/05/25
19:50
Tipperary (IRE) 3m1f Nevereverever (IRE) John Joseph Murphy 15 52 11-8 12/1
Midfield - not fluent 3 out (usual 5 out) - soon weakened(tchd 14/1)
14/05/25
17:45
Tipperary (IRE) 2m1f Chocolate Truffles (IRE) Martin Brassil 6 .5 10-13 20/1
Took keen hold - towards rear - headway into midfield after 3 out - kept on from last - never dangerous(op 14/1)
14/05/25
17:10
Tipperary (IRE) 2m1f Guided By You (IRE) Padraig Roche 4 1.75 10-6 28/1
Held up in rear - some headway 6th - outpaced 3 out - rallied from 2 out - went fourth last - not pace to challenge(op 18/1)
11/05/25
16:50
Killarney (IRE) 3m2f Happy Jacky (IRE) Mark Fahey 3rd 13 11-0 11/4J
Led - headed and prominent after 3rd - led again 7th - headed and prominent 9th - no extra from 2 out(op 4/1)
10/05/25
16:35
Cork (IRE) 3m½f Sky And Sand (IRE) Ross O'Sullivan 7 - 11-12 14/1
Towards rear throughout - never on terms(tchd 16/1)
10/05/25
15:25
Cork (IRE) 2m4f Hidalgo Des Mottes (FR) Eoin Griffin 3rd 4.5 11-2 16/1
Took keen hold - prominent - led after 4 out - headed 2 out - no extra and lost second last - weakened gradually run-in(op 14/1 tchd 12/1)
10/05/25
14:50
Cork (IRE) 2m3f Larkins Lane (IRE) Ronald O'Leary 11 15 11-7 125/1
Towards rear throughout(op 150/1 tchd 100/1)
03/05/25
16:15
Punchestown (IRE) 3m½f Grandero Bello (FR) Eddie & Patrick Harty 99 - 11-5 16/1
In touch with leaders - dropped to rear 7th - struggling 4 out - pulled up before 3 out (jockey said gelding did not handle the ground)(op 28/1)
02/05/25
17:25
Punchestown (IRE) 2m4f No Flies On Him (IRE) E J O'Grady 99 - 10-11 33/1
Led - headed but prominent after 1st - dropped to midfield 4 out - weakened after 3 out - pulled up before 2 out(op 28/1)
01/05/25
17:25
Punchestown (IRE) 2m½f Jeannot Lapin (FR) Gearoid O'Loughlin 6 40 11-12 28/1
Prominent - dropped to rear 3rd - weakened from 3 out - tailed off(op 20/1)
01/05/25
15:40
Punchestown (IRE) 4m1f Desertmore House (IRE) Martin Brassil 2nd .75 11-7 9/1
Prominent - left in third 12th - went second after 2 out - led narrowly when not fluent last - headed run-in - kept on(op 11/1)
25/04/25
19:25
Kilbeggan (IRE) 2m6½f Happy Jacky (IRE) Mark Fahey 1st Won 11-12 9/2
Prominent - not fluent when in touch with leaders 5 out - good headway on inner and went second before 3 out - not fluent 2 out - pushed along home turn - led approaching last - ridden clear run-in(op 12/1 and tchd 14/1)
25/04/25
16:55
Kilbeggan (IRE) 2m3½f Sprinkles (IRE) Padraig Roche 7 4.5 10-8 22/1
Took keen hold - in rear on outer - some headway 3 out - weakened before last(op 16/1)
24/04/25
17:45
Kilbeggan (IRE) 2m2f Bigira (FR) Mark Fahey 11 - 11-10 6/1
Prominent early - in touch with leaders - lost position gradually from 6th (jockey said mare was impeded by loose horse)(op 11/2 tchd 13/2)
22/04/25
16:00
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Sky And Sand (IRE) Ross O'Sullivan 11 3.75 11-12 66/1
Never better than midfield(tchd 80/1)
21/04/25
17:00
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m5f Panda Boy (IRE) Martin Brassil 99 - 11-0 28/1
In touch with leaders - jumped right 1st - unseated 14th(op 40/1)
21/04/25
15:15
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m6f Arion Soldier (IRE) Eamon Courtney 7 1.75 11-0 40/1
In touch with leaders - headway and went third after 3 out - weakened before 2 out(op 33/1)
20/04/25
16:45
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Joya Del Mar (IRE) Dermot A McLoughlin 5 6 11-4 11/1
Prominent - briefly disputed lead after 5 out - mistake 4 out - led then mistake 3 out - headed 2 out - weakened approaching last (jockey said mare made a mistake 3 out and sustained a cut to a hind leg; vet confirmed mare had a wound on a hind leg post race)(op 14/1)
20/04/25
16:10
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Kmil Du Seuil (FR) W P Mullins 99 - 11-5 250/1
In rear - not fluent 2nd - not fluent and pushed along 4th - detached 5 out - pulled up before 4 out(op 100/1)
20/04/25
15:35
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m Classy Cc (IRE) Martin Brassil 12 3 11-5 100/1
Raced wide - took keen hold - never better than midfield(tchd 150/1)
20/04/25
13:22
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Saffronandblue (IRE) Martin Brassil 99 - 10-7 10/1
Never better than midfield - pulled up after 3 out (vet reported gelding to be post race normal)(op 15/2 tchd 7/1)
17/04/25
19:00
Clonmel (IRE) 2m1f Party Dress (IRE) W McCreery 8 22 11-12 8/1
In touch with leaders - mistake and lost position 6th - lost touch before 2 out(op 7/1 tchd 13/2 and tchd 17/2)
17/04/25
17:30
Clonmel (IRE) 2m4f Oaks Soldier (IRE) Eamon Courtney 3rd 5 11-4 12/1
Held up in rear - not fluent 3rd - headway 3 out - outpaced before 2 out - rallied but hit last - kept on(Mkt1: op 20/1 tchd 18/1; Mkt2 tchd 14/1)
17/04/25
16:55
Clonmel (IRE) 2m4f Is Charlie Around (IRE) Eamon Courtney 5 5 11-12 9/4
Took keen hold - led - not fluent 4 out - headed and lost position before 2 out - weakened quickly before last(op 3/1 tchd 2/1)
13/04/25
15:35
Down Royal (IRE) 2m6f Redzy Rocco (IRE) Jarlath P Fahey 8 2.5 11-11 13/2
Prominent - weakened after 3 out(op 9/1 tchd 6/1)
04/04/25
16:55
Wexford (IRE) 3m½f Flemensface (IRE) Eoin Griffin 5 3.5 11-9 11/1
In touch with leaders - hampered by faller 1st - prominent 5th - disputing second when not fluent 2 out - weakened last(op 15/2)
03/04/25
14:00
Naas (IRE) 2m Sky And Sand (IRE) Ross O'Sullivan 7 1.25 11-12 12/1
Held up in midfield - dropped to rear before 4 out - some headway before last - no impression(op 11/1)
01/04/25
18:45
Limerick (IRE) 2m2f Willywampus (IRE) Eamon Courtney 4 6.5 11-8 11/1
Held up in rear - rapid headway to lead after 4th - headed 3 out - lost ground quickly before 2 out - weakened approaching last(op 12/1 tchd 10/1)
27/03/25
17:45
Clonmel (IRE) 2m2½f Western Opera (IRE) Gearoid O'Loughlin 99 - 11-6 50/1
Didn't jump well - in rear - reminder 5th - tailed off when pulled up before 2 out